Wo ist das?

[Gast]

recht gut erhaltene bofus

[Heavy Gunner]

recht gut erhaltene bofus

Ja allerdings. Habe schon funde gesehen, die waren mehrere Jahre alt, und sahen immer noch so aus. Also im Irak die.

Wenn den Ammis mal was vom Laster fällt, oder mal zuviel Munition ausgepackt wurde, dann lassen die das einfach liegen.

[Gast]

Ja typisch und ist ja nicht ihr Land....

[Heavy Gunner]

Aber hier würde ich mich wohlfühlen

Nein die Bilder habe nicht ich gemacht, hätte es aber gerne

[GGG]

Wiegand zumindest scheint seit langer Zeit weg von Markt zu sein. Weiß jemand was aus ihm geworden ist?

Wiegand und sein Partner hatten Stress mit den Amis ... es ging um falsche bzw. unzureichende Abänderungen und um steuerliche Probleme (und wenn es um Steuervergehen geht, hat man bei den Amis wirklich nichts zu lachen ... das hatte schon Al Capone spüren müssen).

Hier ein interessanter Link: http://www.atfabuse.com/atfabuse-10.html

Und hier mal was zum lesen aus einem Ami-Forum:

U.S. Department of Justice

United States Attorney
Western District of North Carolina

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Headquarters:
Suite 1700, Carillon Building
227 West Trade Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28202
(704) 344-6222
FAX (704) 344-6629 Branch:
Room 207, U.S. Courthouse
100 Otis Street
Asheville, North Carolina 28801
(704) 271-4661
FAX (704) 271-4670

NEWS RELEASE
February 5, 2004 For further information
Contact Suellen W. Pierce
(704) 338-3120

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- United States Attorney Robert J. Conrad, Jr.,
Special Agent in Charge of ATF, Charlotte Field Division, Lester D.
Martz, and Special Agent in Charge of the Charlotte Office of the IRS
Criminal Investigation Division, Michael J. Thomas, announced that
Ulrich H. Wiegand, 34, Oliver M. Wiegand, 37, Interordnance of
America, L.P., and related companies, were indicted on Tuesday,
February 3, 2004, by a federal grand jury sitting in Charlotte on 83
counts alleging conspiracy, illegal importation of machineguns,
illegal possession and transfer of machineguns, structuring, and
money laundering. The charges involve the Wiegand brothers' federally
licensed firearms business, Interordnance of America, L.P., located
in Monroe, North Carolina, as well as foreign companies located in
Witten, Germany and Ferlach, Austria, at one time owned and
controlled by the Wiegand brothers.

According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand are German
nationals who established Interordnance of America in June 1995 as a
firearms importation business and used the business to illegally
import machineguns into the United States as machinegun component
parts.

According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand also owned and
controlled two foreign companies Wiegand Ordnance GmbH, located in
Witten, Germany and Interordnance Waffenhandel GmbH, located in
Ferlach, Austria, which were used by Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand to
illegally import Russian-made PPSH 41 machinegun component parts into
the United States for subsequent sale by Interordnance of America. In
addition, the indictment alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand also
illegally imported FN FAL IMBEL and STEYR MP69 machineguns. The
indictment alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand imported the
machinegun component parts knowing that the machineguns had not been
destroyed according to ATF specifications. Further, the indictment
alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand sold these machineguns as
parts kits to customers throughout the United States knowing that the
component parts could be assembled as functional machineguns.
According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand, through
Interordnance of America, sold over 2000 PPSH 41, over 1000 FN FAL
IMBEL and over 500 STEYR MP69 machineguns to customers throughout the
United States without conducting any background checks and without
recording any ownership registration information with the National
Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

The indictment also alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand and
Interordnance of America structured cash deposits in less than $10,000
increments in order to avoid the filing of currency transaction
reports which is required by financial institutions. In addition, the
indictment alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand and Interordnance
of America used monies from the sales of the illegally imported
machineguns in financial transactions to pay importation expenses,
income tax expenses, and payments to a German bank account in
violation of money laundering laws.

The indictment includes a Notice of Forfeiture that asks that the
defendants be required to forfeit to the United States all of the
property involved in the offenses charged in the indictment and all
property traceable to such offenses.

If convicted, the defendants face maximum statutory penalties as noted
on the bill of indictment attached to this announcement. It is
important to note that any sentence received upon conviction will be
determined by the Federal Sentencing Guidelines. Under U.S.
Sentencing Guidelines the court determines each defendant's actual
sentence based upon a formula that takes into account the severity
and characteristics of the offense, and each defendant's criminal
history, if any.

The indictment is the result of a two-year investigation by special
agents of ATF, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and
IRS/CID. Lester Martz, Special Agent in Charge of the Charlotte Field
Division of ATF, said, "ATF takes the illegal importation, possession,
and transfer of machineguns very seriously. We will continue to
identify and investigate any individual or company that engages in
this type activity. Many communities across the country are much
safer as a result of this investigation." Special Agent Charge
Michael Thomas of the Charlotte IRS/CID operations added
that, "IRS/CID, together with the law enforcement community, are
united in our resolve to prosecute and otherwise remove the financial
incentive to commit this type of crime."

Bob Conrad, United States Attorney for the Western District of North
Carolina summed it up by adding, "The illegal importation, possession,
and transfer of fully automatic machineguns pose a serious risk to law
enforcement and other citizens. We will vigorously prosecute any
attempt to smuggle illegal weapons into this country."

DEFENDANTS ARE ENTITLED TO A PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE UNDER THE LAW,
AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE BURDEN OF PROVING EVERY ELEMENT OF THE
CHARGES BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

ULRICH H. WIEGAND
DOB: 10/6/69
Indian Trail, North Carolina

OLIVER M. WIEGAND
DOB: 7/11/66
Indian Trail, North Carolina